why use more when you can use less? bounty. the clean picker upper. chamel . >>> time for the today's topics, still debating, jobs ratings, and the washington post editor, doug hattaway, and sarah taylor, former senior aide to president george w. bush. so welcome, i'll start with you, anne, let's all take a look at what happened earlier. >> by the time the debate was over, mitt romney seemed a completely moderate centrist figure, who showed up as mitt romney the governor, not as mitt romney, the candidate. >> except everything he mentioned wasn't true. so does that start to take its toll over the next few months? >> i just think that that is unjust, to say that -- >> when you say my plan covers pre-existing con i think they will call whatever mitt romney said in the debate, untruthful. no matter how the debate had gone. it just so happens they take extreme issue with certain things, the fact-checkers took issue with, as well, it is a lot to hang their hats on, but away they have to go on at this point. >> are they saying that mitt romney and paul ryan